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willofgod
13-11-2007, 07:41 PM
I'm upgrading my mobo to PCI-E, just took the AMD Athlon out of my old mobo, with heatsink and fan still attached. Can I put it into the new mobo with the HS and fan still attached? I can line it up, so could force it in, but dont know if I'll damage it. The problem is I cant lift the lever on the socket to do it properly with the HS and FAN still attached. So if I need to do this, I guess I'll have to prise the CPU off the HS... Any advice on hold to prise it off appreciated if I need to do this. Infact any advice at all would be great. Been trying to call Col, but he must be in a dead spot of his mobile companys coverage.

willofgod
13-11-2007, 07:44 PM
Nevermind, maverick that I am, I just slipped a knife in there and twatted it off. Just gotta figure out how to reattach the HS and fan now. I'll keep you posted.

willofgod
13-11-2007, 08:13 PM
Crap, my Gfx card needs two 6 pin power supplies, dont think my PSU supports those as I only have 2 cables with 4 pins on them. Looks like a trip to PC Ripoff World is in order.

Wags
13-11-2007, 09:06 PM
Talking to yourself again Willo!?

Not being funny, but I thought you worked in IT :razz:

willofgod
13-11-2007, 09:52 PM
Yeah I do, but I dont muck about with hardware much, so your likely to know more about that side of things than me. I probably should make an effort to read up more.

trust
13-11-2007, 11:24 PM
remember to use a thin layer of thermal grease when you put the heatsink and fan back on.

mind and clean the old stuff off first

willofgod
14-11-2007, 07:55 AM
remember to use a thin layer of thermal grease when you put the heatsink and fan back on.

mind and clean the old stuff off first

Humm, you cant reply on the old stuff then? OK thanks for the advice, I was just going to make do with the old stuff.

Not buying a PSU from PC World, £89 for a 600W unit! Robbing baswarts!

Maggot
14-11-2007, 10:47 AM
I may be wrong Willo but it used to be the case that just any old psu for £40 might be an excellent way to screw your system. You should ask around in here but a decent psu is a must.

Kingy
14-11-2007, 11:47 AM
Got to have a decent PSU as I found out to my cost, bought one for my last PC that was the correct wattage but was also very cheap lasted 2 months and a mate recommended one that was nearly 3 times the price and never had a problem with it.

Can't you buy pin adapters, thought you could buy cheap 4pin to 6 pin power adapters ?

Villan
14-11-2007, 12:06 PM
I have become Willo's bits of PCs provider, so I may be able to offload a 550w psu. At the moment he's using borrowed molex convertors and struggling to get XP to boot.
(according to latest email :roll:).

shifty
14-11-2007, 02:46 PM
I had the same problem with my old PC, I could get a nice 500 watt PSU for it, but the board would not support that amount.
If I had attached it, no doubt would have melt down :oops::oops:

willofgod
14-11-2007, 09:39 PM
I didn't know that Maggot, thanks for the heads up. In which case I'll have that PSU off you Mr Villan, may as well, half my PC is your old kit anyway! I'll pop over and collect it some time soon, probably not tomorrow though... and maybe not Friday either...

XP working now, after clean install, its just taking me hours to get the bastard updates downloaded and installed.

pup
14-11-2007, 10:11 PM
willo i would suggest to stop wasting money on cheap fixes that dont work, and end up in hours of your time wasted and try and be a bit more strategic and plan ahead and dont be impatient.. i used to be like that and its very expensive in money and more importantly your time

less haste is more speed/time/money

Evilweed
14-11-2007, 10:51 PM
Pup, you beat me to it.

Willo, as much as i would like to say what you are doing is a good expeirence for you, but from past expeirences i would say think clearly about where you are heading. Building yourslef a hybrid system could possibly cause you more problems in the future. Its good that villan is offering to help you out, but i was you i would i think about maybe looking into a new system. You could get yourself a half decent system for about £300 which you could build on. Buying a psu, g/card etc with other expenses and time could fetch back about that cost anyhow.

Do as you wish mate but i hope you dont waste your money then find that you end up with a screwed system.

odin
15-11-2007, 05:11 AM
Ave got a shit hot Aluminium thermaltake case here yer can have needs a PSU like but all the good cases do,and a 80 gig HDD, sell yer PC complete replacing your HDD or HDD's with the one i'll give yer and yer halfway there already to getting a dogs knackers PC instead, what ram yer got in yer system?? DDR or DDR2 if yer got DDR and wanna transfer that to yer new PC ( i doubt new pcs run on DDR now)ave got some DDR spare too.

Dont want fack all for um but yer gotta collect lol, or Spitty works in Birmingham every week poor bastard someone has too i suppose he could drop um off

Best regards
Odin

Villan
15-11-2007, 11:58 AM
Well, he's up & running again - he'll have to start from scratch in CoD4, but at least it will look good ;)

That's why you need to back up the mpdata file for CoD4.

willofgod
15-11-2007, 12:41 PM
Odin, thats very kind of you. I'd be very interested in your case if the offer still stands? I'm ok for memory and HDD's though. I've got a couple of half decent SATA drives and some good ram (at least I think its half decent) that I bought last year.

Infact my PC aint that bad, it looks a bit tatty, but its probably only the PSU and case thats letting it down... and perhaps the sound card... and DVD writer. But other than that, its OK.

Heres what I have:

Windows XP Home (full - retail)
ECS KN1 SLI mobo (from Villan)
AMD X2 4400 dual core 64bit CPU (stock cooler and fan)
Mushkin 2GB DDR HP3200 (DDR400) High Performance Dual Channel Kit
Creative Audigy 2 ZS Sound Card
2x Samsung 250GB SATA2 HDDs
2x 80GB IDE HDD's of some description (taking these out though)
Old LG Single Layer DVD writer of some description.
Case - Only remaining remnant of a PC I bought about 5 years ago.
400WATT PSU of some description (replacing with Villans )


I think Spitty works just down the road from me, so it would be ideal if he could bring it down! Cheers! I'll make it up to you next Blackpool meet!

odin
15-11-2007, 12:50 PM
Ok m8

Heres the link if yer still want the case i'll send it with Spitty

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

Regards
Odin

Spitfire
15-11-2007, 12:59 PM
Willo,

If you wish to take Odin up on is offer thet him know ASAP, I am in Halesowen most Thusdays and will transport it that far, you will have to come and collect from there. They will not hold any items for you so will need to get over there to meet in person (yikes).
I have no problem in gettings the goods that far for you. You will have to make the time to get over to Halesowen (B62 8DJ).

Let Odin know cos I will have to arrange collection from him and suffer another brew from his missis.

odin
15-11-2007, 04:47 PM
ffs a brew am lucky to get a slap

mrcol
15-11-2007, 05:32 PM
a slap for coming out of the attic when your not allowed i would suspect.

BuLLiTT
15-11-2007, 06:27 PM
LOL Odin you poor hen-pecked git :) ps get cod 4 asap so we can take the piss out of you! :)

willofgod
15-11-2007, 07:53 PM
Cool, yes please Odin!

Spitty, heres where I am in relation to that post code you posted:
[Only registered and activated users can see links]

Errr... literally just down the road then!

Shouldn't be to much trouble for me to get too. Problem is I'll be at work. Mel wont be though of a thursday though, maybe I can send her to fetch it. What time would be best for you?

pup
15-11-2007, 09:19 PM
pssssk... over.. come in ...ok squad ...as soon as we know what time both mel and willo are out of the house thats when we strike.. col you got the plyers to cut his cable and disable his pc, villan in and out getting your stuff back fast as ya can...bullit put your night vision on to get the puddings, fridge map to follow

willofgod
16-11-2007, 12:06 PM
Its a big postcode, hope you dont get caught in other peoples houses before you find mine!

PS. While your there could you move my internet connection into the loft from the cellar (I'm crap at DIY!). That would be lovely! Thanks.

Spitfire
16-11-2007, 12:25 PM
Willo, Odin.

I am next scheduled to go on Thursday 22nd or 29th November. When the date is finalised I will bring the case.

You will have to give us a contact number.

We will meet at lunch time, So let me know your on your way and I;ll nip out for a fag and meet you at the gate.

Kingy
16-11-2007, 03:24 PM
pssssk... over.. come in ...ok squad ...as soon as we know what time both mel and willo are out of the house thats when we strike.. col you got the plyers to cut his cable and disable his pc, villan in and out getting your stuff back fast as ya can...bullit put your night vision on to get the puddings, fridge map to follow

PC Plod " Mr Bullit yer under arrest for breaking and entering Mr Willogods fridge, procuring a pudding bowl and molesting 30 cans of custard and making scraping noises of a sexual nature with your spoon anything you do say will be taken down and may be used as evidence in a court of law"

Bullit " Its a fair cop guv, take me down, bang me up, throw the book at me, its my just desserts"

BuLLiTT
16-11-2007, 05:31 PM
LOL Pup and Kingy you barstewards. and anyway Willo will have an unbreakable padlock on his fridge anyway ^ ^ :|, not even Mel has a key! :)

Kingy
16-11-2007, 07:33 PM
PC Plod " Mr Bullit yer under arrest for breaking and entering Mr Willogods fridge, procuring a pudding bowl and molesting 30 cans of custard and making scraping noises of a sexual nature with your spoon anything you do say will be taken down and may be used as evidence in a court of law"

Bullit " Its a fair cop guv, take me down, bang me up, throw the book at me, its my just desserts"

6 months later a Crown court somewhere in England

The following was taken from the court transcripts.................

Judge: Mr Bullit you have been found guilty of a most heinous crime, that upon the afternoon of November the 16th last with great malice aforethought you did procure a willo pattern pudding bowl and proceed to break into Mr Willogod's fridge, where you did set up and with said pudding bowl proceed to molest 30 cans of Ambrosia Devon cream custard, the noises of the sexual gratification that has been relayed to this jury has turned some of its members legs to jelly.

Mr Bullit: HMMMMMMMMMMM JELLY and CUSTARDDDDDDDDDDD

Judge:Silence in court, your total disregard for anything else other than this callous action has left the poor willo patterned pudding bowl scarred for life, so scarred in fact that the police forensic team could find no sigh of the pattern so frenzied was your spoon scraping.
You actions have left me no recourse but to hand out a custodial sentence!

Mr Bullit: HMMMMMMMMMM CUSTARDDDDDDDDDDD

Judge:Mr Bullit I don't think you realize the seriousness of your position, you are going down for a 5 stretch, you will do some time some bird!

Mr Bullit: BIRDSSSSSS CUSTARDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Judge: Mr Bullit lets remember the gravity of you situation, you are going down for a 5 stretch, you will do some time some bird, your going to the pokey to the big house to do porridge!

Mr Bullit: M' lord M'lord!!!!!!!!!

Judge: what is it now Mr Bullit?

Mr Bullit: I don't like porridge can I do...................CUSTARDDDDDDDDDDDD

Judge: Guards take him down!!!!!

:smile::smile::smile::smile:

So end one mans tale of a tragic addition to custard;-)

BuLLiTT
18-11-2007, 01:18 PM
You have a great imagination LOL Kingy have you nowt else to write about? and i dont know where you get the impression i'm addicted to custard....I've even turned me 'mic down so you cant hear me in TS scrape my bowl :)

Kingy
18-11-2007, 01:30 PM
You have a great imagination LOL Kingy have you nowt else to write about? and i dont know where you get the impression i'm addicted to custard....I've even turned me 'mic down so you cant hear me in TS scrape my bowl :)

Sorry Bullit mate, it was Pups fault she started it with the raid on willogods house and I couldn't resist.

willofgod
18-11-2007, 08:49 PM
OK Spitty, I'll get things sorted out at this end.

Kingy, I'd cut down on the caffine LOL!